Tribe Moderators's topics - tribe.net

how does one become a moderator?

2008-04-09T20:57:51Z

ello,
I agreed to becoem a moderator for a tribe.
I emailed tribe as requested.
I hav eno heard back and its been over 6 weeks.
Ideas?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 16 replies

Broken Tribe Photo Function

2008-04-03T01:33:26Z

I have tried a few times to upload a new photo to a particular tribe (it's worked fine in the past). The thumbnail displays on the main photo page, but the large version doesn't work:

Thumbnail is first pic here ("If the Flinstones Got Religion"):
http://nogod.tribe.net/photos

Large version supposed to be here:
http://nogod.tribe.net/photos/0d9900ad-f698-4b27-9fa0-e5d4fb94aaf2

The source photo is a TIFF, by the way.

Ideas?

(No, I'm not a tribe bugs member -- I usually see good feedback here, and don't want to join yet another tribe!)

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what keeps a tribe alive...

2008-03-29T17:00:54Z

participation, duh... but what makes people participate?

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is the mod present?

2008-03-26T18:00:12Z

i have a friend who has been trying to get in here for months.

is there anyone at the controls?

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New tribe for moderators

2008-03-10T21:02:51Z

I didn't create it but there is a new tribe for moderators. I don't know if aaron aka slim is checking this tribe or letting people in anymore so here's an alternative:
tribes.tribe.net/modsquad

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"Cease and Desist"?

2008-02-10T01:30:40Z

So this isn't exactly the perfect fit for this tribe, but it may be possible that as moderators you have come across this. I'd replied to a thread [not in a tribe I moderate] with a benign quick bio that seemed to run along the theme of other bio's posted by the author, and the thread was deleted then reposted without my reply. I then asked in thread 'oops what happened to the last thread' and got this out of the blue:

"please cease and desist from further contact with me, including replies to my posts. your behavior constitutes harassment.. every post you make is a fight against me...or against the various Buddhist monks who come on here

you are not a Buddhist

you are some kind of right wing troll here to harass Buddhism. your behavior is not only some kind of violation of courtesy, it actually constitutes criminal behavior, since you have a malicious intent to harass me...

if you continue to annoy me, I will contact Tribe Net...if you go farther, I will prosecute you in a court of law does that explain why I deleted your post? I hope so and I hope someone with the time, finds time to prosecute you and put you and the other trolls in prison, where you clearly belong "

Honestly if you had seen the history of my posts, you wouldn't think that I had in any way harrassed this man. At worst, I may have disagreed with others with regard to their insistance on the 'true Buddhist Way' [I -am- Buddhist FWIW] but never have we come to argument in public or private.

Clearly I am not intimidated by the prosecution threat, but the Tribe evidence [for a TOU investigation] has been deleted, so who is to say? Do they back these things up? As moderators, have you come across this?

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A bug in changing moderators

2008-02-07T06:54:18Z

If any of you are about to appoint another person to be moderator of the tribe you moderate be prepared for a malfunction. If you do try it, leave settings such as members can invite other people on, in case it doesn't work.

It seems there is a bug in the system when one tries to appoint a new moderater the last couple of days. Yesterday I read that someone had a similar situation to what I today have experienced. It may be happening to private tribes only, but I have a feeling it is happening with all tribes, based on the situation I read in the tribe Shamanism (which I'm not in but was reading out of concern with how the outgoing mod was being treated by the rest of the tribe.)

In Shamanism, a public tribe, the moderator wanted to appoint a new mod, and I'm thinking she did indeed do that rather than just leave without appointing anyone, which is what I thought happened when I looked at it yesterday.

In my case, I was just appointed moderator of a private tribe, a temporary position while the mod went away for a little while and wouldn't be checking the internet. We thought this was a wise move. Many of you in this tribe can probably relate, as we are wishing that SFSlim had appointed another moderator during the time of his absence.

So in the private tribe I'm in the moderator attempted to appoint me as moderator while she was away. I received a PM saying that I am now the moderator, but in fact I have no moderator controls for the private tribe, and the mod spot says "choose a new moderator".

Moderators, this is my alert. Don't change mods right now, until this bug has been fixed, or your tribe will be left unmoderated. And I don't know how long it can take to get a mod put back in place once this has happened.

If you are still tempted to appoint a new moderator and the tribe is moderated or private, make sure you at least have the settings set so that members can invite others. That way the tribe can be accessible through the current members, in case it takes a long time to fix this bug.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 12 replies

Double acceptance

2008-01-02T18:12:01Z

Every time somebody joins my tribe I get two acceptance replies in my mail. EVERY time, with EVERY person.

Is this a glitch? And how can I get it to stop?

http://tribes.tribe.net/happylaughingsmiley

posted in Tribe Moderators - 9 replies

question: Any tools for removing inactive users from a tribe?

2007-12-28T14:44:24Z

Question: Any tools for removing inactive users from a tribe?

Not unsubscribed users, but users who haven't logged on in over a year or some such metric.

As near as I can see there is no way of getting that information from a person's profile. Am I missing it?

Thanks, Steve.

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Mark speaks

2007-11-29T13:31:51Z

http://people.tribe.net/markpincus/blog?topicid=696641b6-8100-4598-8328-afcaf7d83122

posted in Tribe Moderators - 18 replies

It is very annoying !!!!!

2007-11-29T13:17:28Z

It is very annoying when moderators unsubscribe without first transferring the moderatorship to someone.. Especially now that tribe does not action voting threads..

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posting private messages

2007-11-25T02:51:35Z

I was under the impression that this was against TOU, but that has been questioned recently ~ does anyone have documentation of this rule?

love all-ways,
mem

posted in Tribe Moderators - 17 replies

notification when someone deletes a thread in a tribe you moderate.

2007-11-18T18:16:36Z

I would like this feature. I hate it when a thread disappears and I don't know what happened to it. I think it also creates more drama and a bad name for tribe when people automatically think it was tribe that deleted it, when often it was the original poster.

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Rules... Beyond TOU... in a Tribe Far Far Away...

2007-10-12T01:21:59Z

Recent discussions on issues like TOU and evangelical Christian posts makes me think of this ..

The TOU don't cover everything and can be ambiguously interpreted. Moderators who arbitrarily enforce unclear TOU and unclear rules can become the victim of vitriolic attack.

To overcome this, what is to stop a moderator running a thread within a tribe where "rules" and perhaps "purpose" are discussed and agreed upon?

This would empower moderators with terms of reference when addressing issues during conflict and problem times.. TOU are all very well - but democratically establishing some rules to cricket seems a great idea. (Especially when a tribe's subject is a contentious issue(s) likely to see open conflict)... I have seen such things assist moderators resolve conflict and address the behaviour of rogue members in the past..

I have only done that in one tribe I moderate. That is a tribe where people discuss stuff which is very personal and confidential. The rules are designed to protect that confidentiality, make people comfortable with posting information, and also establishing rules on who, and how, members are admitted... We have nine agreed rules (sorry but I cant post them here..) and these were established within the first few weeks of the tribes existence.. People who want to become members must be supplied the rules and agree to them prior to joining this private tribe..

Have other mods posted threads where rules of conduct and content are discussed and agreed upon ?

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Okay....TOU

2007-10-11T03:38:00Z

It's been a while since I've had to call upon TOU and now I am having a heck of a time finding out where to do this. I've even sent off a message to Tribe help twice and gotten no reply. I've had a few trollers and spammers showing up on more than two of my tribes and I'd like to report them.

Little help?

:)

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Spamembers

2007-10-10T22:07:30Z

...please excuse if this has been addressed before....I still feel like a fresh-faced kid when it comes to Tribe. I run across people joining for the purpose of posting their service/pitching their idea-org-cult etc. Only been 'hit' once on my mod's (we won't go into alts here!)- but is there an appropriate protocol for the poster who joined 4 hrs. ago with 0 friends and an agenda?

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Dealing with Rogue Moderators

2007-10-09T16:35:38Z

Hi Folks

I recently got booted from the Movie Quotes Tribe after protesting that the moderator deleting content (that did not violate TOU in MHO). That’s how I found this tribe looking for advice and answers about that situation..

I decided just to get over being kicked out and forget it.

However I now can see that someone else in the Tribe has called for a new moderator on the same grounds. I think the current moderator may delete this thread… Could you please check it… http://moviequotes.tribe.net/thread/bcbcd17d-0eef-40cf-b873-ab227893260a

It is also interesting to note that the same mod moderates a tribe with 124 members that is three years old and yet has no posts ???? http://morford.tribe.net/ (the one post is from someone i was speaking to about this....)

I would also say I have tried to discuss this with the mod who does not answer my polite messages and they also will not let someone in who asked to join – reason –they are on my friends list…

Is there any way of dealing with a Rouge Moderator ?

Can a custodian be put in to run a transparent and democratic vote ?

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NEW TRIBES tribe

2007-10-09T16:32:16Z

NEW TRIBES...........public - created 09/29/07
http://tribes.tribe.net/20e645e8-4c15-4c14-9244-31850725a277?_click_path=Application%5Btribe%5D.Tribe%5B20e645e8-4c15-4c14-9244-31850725a277%5D#

TIRED OF TROLLING TO FIND COOL NEW TRIBES?

I had thought about starting a tribe called new tribes tribe
you know it is so hard to boost your tribes w\ithout being a troll or nuisance

so I ... more
TIRED OF TROLLING TO FIND COOL NEW TRIBES?

I had thought about starting a tribe called new tribes tribe
you know it is so hard to boost your tribes w\ithout being a troll or nuisance

so I thought about perhaps starting a tribe called new tribes

<<<Not only limited to New tribes...but all tribes that are looking for fresh voices, enlightenment, and more participation>>>>

In this tribe you can post info. about your tribes...perhaps provide links to your most interesting threads in your past topical archives

also ask others to make deals to invite 3 or more of thier friends to your tribe.......
(certain friends that they feel would be intested in that tribe)
And you would agree also to do the same for their tribe

So in that thread titled after the name of your tribe...others will sign on to deals with you to boost each others tribe\tribes with 3 or more invites of close friends

Of course to do this you both must join each others tribes to activate the invite friends to tribe option
ALSO PROVIDE IN THAT THREAD LINKS TO YOUR TRIBE

responders will intern join your tribe and post links to their tribe...and contact you both in your thread and personally to ensure a quick response and to make sure both parties are interested in endorsing each others tribe idea

In threads it is also encouraged that you let others know what you think about these new tribes....but, be nice...even if you don't agree....It's called constructive critisism
I hate deleating threads...In fact, I have never had to deleate a single thread or remove a single person from any of my 13 tribes.....

ALREADY A MEMBER OF TOO MANY TRIBES?....SOLUTION
http://tribes.tribe.net/20e645e8-4c15-4c14-9244-31850725a277/thread/fcebd4c3-04ad-4f77-b9f3-334c58bb8311

How to... invite friends to somene elses tribe...101

http://tribes.tribe.net/20e645e8-4c15-4c14-9244-31850725a277/thread/aa15ed3a-dd71-4517-8373-5049aedb358d

Has your tribe gone cold?...Tips to get your trbe BURNING MAN!!!!
http://tribes.tribe.net/20e645e8-4c15-4c14-9244-31850725a277/thread/f1c406fa-1a73-4fd6-bfab-3d69592e17ce?newpostingid=5ee2557c-7305-48c4-abda-4d7c0c2d8c40#5ee2557c-7305-48c4-abda-4d7c0c2d8c40

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Can a city subscribe to tribe.net and have a profile?

2007-08-30T00:01:29Z

like Tri-Cities .. it doesn't appear to be a person, but rather a link to teh local newspaper. This "Tri-Cities" is moderator of... you guessed it... Tri-Cities tribe.

I thought tribe.net was for individuals to connect, make friends, etc... but for cities to act as people??

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Block users from rejoining a Tribe?

2007-08-29T15:23:23Z

So, this came up in the WTF thread:
http://moderators.tribe.net/thread/ab31e88e-b07e-4b27-abcc-d5398d97d918#ad9870ed-bcfa-4aff-8b97-63634fddb5db

What do folks think about being able to check a "ban user" checkbox when booting a member from a Tribe? This might be something relatively easy to implement on the banning side, but it would probably take a while to whip up the UI to un-ban someone.

Since trolls tend to go out of their way to join Tribes as new members anyway, is this really all that much of a step up above flipping the Tribe to moderated until things calm down?

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change in a tribe's focus

2007-08-24T15:33:36Z

When a change occurs in a tribe's needs or focus and a long-standing silent member returns with a different need or understanding yikes!! all holy heck can break loose.

I and the tribe members hae definitely been experiencing this. I wish it weren't so.
I am tempted to bad mouth the trib eand such but not going to do so. I am feelign that the change in need of the tribe members is now narrow and limiting, but whiel I may say that it doesn't legitimize their desires or need. It also makes me the 'bad' poster, jostling with words and posts and discussions, supposedly sayign wrong things in too many different ways.

i hesitate to leave the tribe, things may change in a few months.. definitely not weeks, as it is a group of people whose binding theme in that tribe is one which doesn't seem to encourage growth or change.
Maybe, maybe not. Suffice to say, i have gone through enough feelings and emotions about it and shall post rarely if ever anymore. It is a waste of time to 'justify' my style or needs in wake of many negative interactions.

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Deleting threads as a moderator

2007-08-22T01:45:02Z

I'm having trouble deleting a thread in my tribe... it keeps giving me an error message. Is this a known glitch?? has anybody else experienced this yet?

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Delete Function

2007-08-17T16:05:28Z

As a Moderator... it would be nice to do some major spring cleaning and delete a lot of old posts.. As best I can tell, right now you have to delete one post at a time. It might be nice if every post had a check box and the moderator could go through and check the ones that should be deleted and multiple posts could be deleted at the same time. Or is there a way to delete multiple posts and I am just not aware of it?

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please SoUnD OfF - tribe mergers & meta-tribes

2007-08-15T13:07:39Z

theres already merger-rumbling in some tribes I'm involved in, so moderators please cast some "votes" on this stuff.

I'm seeing this & related topics all over moderators & tribe ideas, so I'm cross posting this:

When existing tribes realize they are redundant, what should the goal be?

To create a single big tribe with multiple co-moderators/co-creators?
to create one tribe with only one moderator?
(another thread mentions possible creator/moderator separation, multiple moderators. I like both ideas)

[and heres another function: cross-linking threads that a post spans!]

to leave the tribes separate but link them so that membership in one automatically generates membership in the others?
automatic (or optional) cross-posting?

this would allow the creation of meta-tribes, families of tribes that deal with related but still somewhat distnct topics - I guess the function could be pretty much like individuals making friends - one moderator sees a related tribe, sends an invite to the other moderator offering to create a meta-tribe. if the second one clicks "agree", then the system creates a new meta-tribe. could be very cool!

then theres all the same questions about creator/moderator issues (who has control of whether a new tribe gets accepted into a meta-tribe, etc)

then also would come the inevitable question of: could one tribe be a member of two different meta-tribes?

I'm not sure if idea of sub-tribes is more or less synonymous with meta-tribes, or close enough..
Do we need one functon? or two? or three?

my vote is to allow both tribe-merger and meta-tribes.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 40 replies

anyone a member of Orkut ?

2007-08-11T04:32:12Z

anyone a member?
will someone please invite me to Orkut
my email > aporchmunky@aol.com

Thanks

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WTF

2007-07-26T13:58:02Z

Okay... I want to know.... What is going on with Tribe? For one, this tribe used to rock with posts, good bad or ugly it was moving messages. Now, its stagnant and looking like its forgotten.

i~brian

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Cisco to buy Tribe.net

2007-06-24T17:23:08Z

I can't seem to find any mention of this on the Tribe company blog, or the About Tribe page, or the Tribe News page...maybe I just don't belong to the right tribes to see it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/03/technology/03social.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

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Fav Tribe

2007-02-22T15:21:47Z

I just wonder sometimes, of all the MODs that are here, which is your personal fav tribe to MOD? If you dont have a fav tribe, which one would you like to MOD?

I like the NEOhio tribe, because it was something I did or tried to do on AOL and once I got to TRIBE, they didnt have a NEOhio. I created it and I love to watch it grow.

~brian~

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free tribe ads to moderators

2007-01-14T18:41:46Z

anyone remember this? i loved making use of this perk, but i am not sure it if is still available... would love to access this again. Anyone know who I can contact about tribe ads for my tribe?

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Censorship today

2006-11-19T15:29:55Z

The intent of this thread is just to be a check-in on what, if anything is getting deleted by TOU at tribe today.
As many here are also, I recently returned to what appears to be a better tribe than what was melting down earlier this year.
The tribes I'm still on that deal with deletions and TOU censorship are mellow with inactivity.
I was able to find a rather naughty sex tribe just by clicking through the standard "sidewalk traffic."
No tribes I'm on have reported any deletions, and I'm in some wild tribes.
I did talk with a friend who had some naughty photos knocked from public to private view by unseen hands,
but no deletion.
How are other people experiencing this?

I hope to keep this thread to just the facts,
no pro and con about TOU or Freedom of expression.

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removed member rejoining

2006-10-20T07:09:29Z

Does anyone know if you can report a member to TOU for rejoining your tribe over and over when you remove them?

Just curious, I'm not there yet and I know I could keep the tribe moderated but I don't want too so I was curious if anyone had any experience with this.

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Freedom of Speech

2006-10-12T04:12:21Z

Is Freedom of Speech going to return to Tribe.net?

Is the TOU going to be rewritten to return ownership of works posted on Tribe.net to those who created such work?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 43 replies

When asking to join...

2006-10-11T08:42:40Z

As it reads in the tribe description above, when asking to join this tribe, please tell me which tribe(s) you currently moderate.

I'd say about 70% of the membership requests I receive lack this single, simple piece of information.

Thank you very much.

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Wooohoooo!

2006-09-25T16:59:22Z

Now this is what I'm talkin' 'bout -- kickin' it old-school. Let's make this site better than ever. What a reilef to return to some design-sanity.

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anybody know anything about this?

2006-09-20T22:11:38Z

http://tribevents.tribe.net/thread/0f8755fc-d04f-4c18-98f2-2b88795fc2ca

nice of them to tell us things In Advance.

And maybe now that its not TLAP Day anymore, could they lose the puking pirates?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 23 replies

Tribe Taken Back Over by Mark?

2006-09-01T20:47:34Z

Is this for real, or is someone spoofing Mark's profile?

http://sanfrancisco.tribe.net/template/pub%2Clisting%2CViewListing.vm?listingid=36bbc4a2-00b0-4ae9-a7dc-9a61ff3cd937&_message_resource=info.listing.reponse.sent

Wendy

posted in Tribe Moderators - 18 replies

since the last update

2006-08-13T15:36:27Z

The formatting on my monitor is totally screwed up, pretty much like after every update, BUT is usually corrected a few days later. Now it's been a few weeks later and no better. Suggestions?

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Renaming a Tribe profile

2006-08-06T19:10:33Z

Can anyone tell me how to rename a Tribe profile name (as opposed to the 'screen name')? Or, how to un-share it (that is, *not* have it be accessible via a URL to the outside world)???

PM or post here if you care to help. Thanks!

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I don't like those extra little images below the main pic

2006-07-13T04:49:00Z

It would be nice if the mod had the option to display the extra newest pics, OR NOT. I prefer to have just the main pic on display. Those extra three little ones just busy the main page unnecessarily, and deter from the main pic.

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NBC buyout?

2006-07-12T06:24:20Z

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=5030

"Though Tribe.net is something of an also-ran, a cross between online hangout MySpace and Web-based classifieds service Craigslist that never reached the success of either, Paid Content speculates that NBC plans to integrate the site’s technology with iVillage’s content. "

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UVART.ORG

2006-07-12T00:49:12Z

Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is an Illusion.

Wilma Feather
UVART

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??s about rumors

2006-07-11T22:08:59Z

Can a tribe employee or administrator discuss for us some of the recent changes and rumors about tribe? Please.

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NBC Source Clarifies Stage of Tribe.net Deal

2006-07-11T20:20:50Z

http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3618661

NBC Source Clarifies Stage of Tribe.net Deal

› › › ClickZ News

By Kate Kaye | July 7, 2006

Despite reports to the contrary, a purchase of social networking site Tribe.net by NBC Universal is not a done deal. According to a source inside NBC Universal, the company is looking at Tribe's back-end technology for possible integration with its digital properties, which include iVillage, MSNBC.com, and Telemundo.com.

NBC Universal had no comment regarding the reports.

According to the source, NBC also is evaluating other social networking site technologies. The company has signed a letter of intent to conduct due diligence of Tribe's technology; however, the source stressed, "To say we're buying it, that's not true." As for the cost of acquiring Tribe.net as a whole or its technology only, the source said it would be "well under $5 million."

In a continuing effort to scoop up ad dollars that are moving away from television properties towards the Web, NBC is clearly evaluating ways of harnessing the traffic-driving popularity of social networking for its own sites. NBC.com and iVillage both already feature message boards and blogs.

A social networking integration could also prove interesting for NBC Universal's Spanish language site Telemundo.com, which merged with the Yahoo en Espanol site earlier this year.

In addition, Tribe.net's classifieds listings capabilities could be used to enhance NBC's local broadcast affiliate sites.

qb

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3 Tribe members kicked out for breaking Tribe rules

2006-07-05T08:32:55Z

Three Tribe members - Shatter, Mystic and Busdriver - have had their accounts terminated by Tribe.

Shatter and Mystic have repeatedly broken key tribe rules, see Tribe's Terms Of Use and Code Of Conduct. . They did "inflame", "intimidate", "libel" and "defame", several members of Tribe. Both of them also repeatedly posted photographic material that was unauthorized, and published with the intent to defame certain Tribe members. Shatter also had his Flick'r/YAHOO account terminated about 2 weeks ago, after using the same unauthorized photos.

Shatter and Mystic played a key role in the hijacking of my tribe - SF The Citadel Tribe (as described and discussed in 3 treads here: "The Rights Of A Moderator", "What We Have Learned About Tribe" and "Open Letter To The Tribe.net Administration"). Mystic has described the take-over as a "succesful non-violent coup".

Shatter has supposedly returned to Tribe after being deleted, using an alternative identity - and posting things in the Bondage A Go Go Tribe.

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Where to Go?

2006-07-03T08:55:38Z

Many of my friends have moved over to MySpace.com, and I'm disturbed by it. First, the place is so ghetto, and it seems to attract mostly 14 year old girls.

Tribe, for all its faults has class. There are intelligent discussions here and no annoyance from music blasting when I click on someone's profile. Tribe is good, but jeez, you guys are alienating so many people! There won't be anybody left if you keep this up.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 76 replies

would you like to actually be able to have a "tribe" that people can see?

2006-06-26T00:18:54Z

come check it out...

www.free-association.net

posted in Tribe Moderators - 8 replies

reporting a threat to TOU

2006-06-17T08:40:30Z

How do I do it? Who can I forward an email too?
Sorry if this has been covered before.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 25 replies

Help

2006-06-17T00:07:43Z

I moderate Extreme Honesty which is a public tribe.
I 86'd a member after a lengthy problem with his aggressive posting style that caused many of the other members to complain. When I dumped this guy I pretty much got a standing ovation from the other members.

Here's my question. Is there any way to prevent an unwelcome trbier from reappearing in a public tribe? He keeps signing up and I keep dumping him. What's a mod to do?

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A Nicer Environment -- for Advertisers

2006-06-15T19:20:58Z

"When social networking site Tribe.net debuted in 2003, it was a place for wide-open online discussions where no topic was taboo. Then the "Terms of Use Guy" showed up.

A made-up character representing Tribe management, "TOU Guy" began aggressively patrolling the site in December, removing nude photos and sending reprimands to authors of offensive material. His enigmatic silhouette popped up in e-mails threatening to banish people who violated the rules.

TOU Guy made Tribe safe for advertisers who had flocked to the site as it became more popular. But original members felt betrayed, and 1,400 of them rebelled and left to build a new site (Free-Association.net) where they can once again discuss anything from magic to transgender issues without restriction."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/07/AR2006060702310.html

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New Additions

2006-06-15T02:39:14Z

I have seen a few new additions to one of my tribes (NEOhio) with these they post the same things in the other major tribes they are a member of. They have no friends, no real profile and you can tell they advertize because the same thing is located in the profile under recent activity. Who else has seen this?

~brian~

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Interesting Error Message

2006-06-01T10:25:23Z

I tried the back-step trick that usually works if you want to edit a post after you have hit "submit," but used it on a response to a blog posting. I got this message after hitting the back button, editing, then hitting the "submit" button:

Insufficient Privileges
You have insufficient privileges to take this action

I guess the system thought I wasn't cool enough to do what it thought I wanted it to do...

posted in Tribe Moderators - 3 replies

what to do about stalkers

2006-05-27T07:47:04Z

if you have a male that is stalking females....what is the best way to go about dealing with them?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 1 reply

TOU guy is really, truly an idiot

2006-05-21T19:56:34Z

I don't buy any of the crap i hear on here from any of the Tribe representatives about how the flagging works.

In the last day, and this has happened before, some thirty-odd pics have been removed from the gallery in the *sex talk* tribe i manage. Primarily they are drawings or paintings - DRAWINGS and PAINTINGS, not photos - of sexual situations. That isn't so bad, but there are a number of comic stories - a series of 12 to 15 images in a row that tell a situational short story of a sexual nature, mostly not graphic at all - where the TOU guy has chosen to remove one single frame in the middle of the series, thus ruining the whole thing. It appears completely indiscriminate. Since yesterday four seperate stories have been spoiled. If there is something TOU guy finds offensive in a story he should remove the whole thing, and not just one page of the comic in the middle.

There is no way that members of the tribe are choosing these random frames to flag. And i have never, EVER received a response to my queries about the many random, and unwarranted, removals that have occurred since these uptight changes have gone into place in this new paranoid Tribe. TOU guy is a prudish, shiftless, arbitrary, insensate, stupid idiot.

I don't believe any of the platitudes i hear from Tribe on this issue and i'm done with politeness. It's terrible what has happened to Tribe.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 71 replies

05.18.2006 release notes

2006-05-18T23:54:34Z

hi moderators!
we had a minor release this morning, of which you can find the details here:
http://releasenotes.tribe.net/thread/6bc03259-ef16-407f-851b-f5ef35d49066

notable mentions are:
1. you can now remove membership requests from unsubbed users
2. when you browse members of a tribe, you can sort them by name or date joined, and control the # of members shown per page.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 4 replies

Question.

2006-05-18T23:40:37Z

lf a member posts information from a private exchange, even though it's not verbatim, is that a violation of TOU?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 1 reply

sorting members

2006-05-18T23:25:08Z

Does any one else see how a way to sort members alphabetically by the mod can come in handy. When someone is causing problems in a large tribe and needs to be deleted it would be way more conveniant if the mod could sort the membership in some sort of sensible way.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 19 replies

Why O Why

2006-05-13T23:47:55Z

Why do we continue to respond to topics/threads that are made by those that are Unsubscribed or those that tend to spawn a hateful word?
These are encouraged to keep a topic/thread open or ongoing to enrage others. What is the real purpose for this conduct?

As it was stated by another member, we should have more productive topics/threads that are more contoured to help the MODS. I know im not the mod of this tribe but we should strive to make the tribes we have better.

~brian~

posted in Tribe Moderators - 24 replies

The Party's Over ...

2006-05-08T05:37:55Z

rapeture ruined it for everyone ...

http://tribeideas.tribe.net/thread/13a73b2b-4032-42c4-9144-90ee7dabedc1

= D

posted in Tribe Moderators - 7 replies

California Civil Code Section 3344 (Unauthorized use of Likeness)

2006-05-07T19:06:42Z

http://law.onecle.com/california/civil/3344.html

3344. (a) Any person who knowingly uses another's
name, voice,
signature, photograph, or likeness, in any manner, on
or in products,
merchandise, or goods, or for purposes of advertising
or selling, or
soliciting purchases of, products, merchandise, goods
or services,
without such person's prior consent, or, in the case
of a minor, the
prior consent of his parent or legal guardian, shall
be liable for
any damages sustained by the person or persons injured
as a result
thereof. In addition, in any action brought under
this section, the
person who violated the section shall be liable to the
injured party
or parties in an amount equal to the greater of seven
hundred fifty
dollars ($750) or the actual damages suffered by him
or her as a
result of the unauthorized use, and any profits from
the unauthorized
use that are attributable to the use and are not taken
into account
in computing the actual damages. In establishing such
profits, the
injured party or parties are required to present proof
only of the
gross revenue attributable to such use, and the person
who violated
this section is required to prove his or her
deductible expenses.
Punitive damages may also be awarded to the injured
party or parties.
The prevailing party in any action under this
section shall also be
entitled to attorney's fees and costs.
(b) As used in this section, "photograph" means any
photograph or
photographic reproduction, still or moving, or any
videotape or live
television transmission, of any person, such that the
person is
readily identifiable.
(1) A person shall be deemed to be readily
identifiable from a
photograph when one who views the photograph with the
naked eye can
reasonably determine that the person depicted in the
photograph is
the same person who is complaining of its unauthorized
use.
(2) If the photograph includes more than one person
so
identifiable, then the person or persons complaining
of the use shall
be represented as individuals rather than solely as
members of a
definable group represented in the photograph. A
definable group
includes, but is not limited to, the following
examples: a crowd at
any sporting event, a crowd in any street or public
building, the
audience at any theatrical or stage production, a glee
club, or a
baseball team.
(3) A person or persons shall be considered to be
represented as
members of a definable group if they are represented
in the
photograph solely as a result of being present at the
time the
photograph was taken and have not been singled out as
individuals in
any manner.
(c) Where a photograph or likeness of an employee
of the person
using the photograph or likeness appearing in the
advertisement or
other publication prepared by or in behalf of the user
is only
incidental, and not essential, to the purpose of the
publication in
which it appears, there shall arise a rebuttable
presumption
affecting the burden of producing evidence that the
failure to obtain
the consent of the employee was not a knowing use of
the employee's
photograph or likeness.
(d) For purposes of this section, a use of a name,
voice,
signature, photograph, or likeness in connection with
any news,
public affairs, or sports broadcast or account, or any
political
campaign, shall not constitute a use for which consent
is required
under subdivision (a).
(e) The use of a name, voice, signature,
photograph, or likeness
in a commercial medium shall not constitute a use for
which consent
is required under subdivision (a) solely because the
material
containing such use is commercially sponsored or
contains paid
advertising. Rather it shall be a question of fact
whether or not
the use of the person's name, voice, signature,
photograph, or
likeness was so directly connected with the commercial
sponsorship or
with the paid advertising as to constitute a use for
which consent
is required under subdivision (a).
(f) Nothing in this section shall apply to the
owners or employees
of any medium used for advertising, including, but not
limited to,
newspapers, magazines, radio and television networks
and stations,
cable television systems, billboards, and transit ads,
by whom any
advertisement or solicitation in violation of this
section is
published or disseminated, unless it is established
that such owners
or employees had knowledge of the unauthorized use of
the person's
name, voice, signature, photograph, or likeness as
prohibited by this
section.
(g) The remedies provided for in this section are
cumulative and
shall be in addition to any others provided for by
law.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 36 replies

Sexually Explicit tribe created by Tribe?

2006-05-04T15:56:41Z

Recently, I began cleaning up a Tribe I had created (Anal for Women) because it was in violation of Tribe's TOU (sexually explicit). Then several days ago, I received a request from someone to take over as moderator. Before I even had a chance to respond, this person contacted help@tribe.net, got themselves put in as moderator and got the sexually explicit content restored. This would seem to be in direct violation of Tribe's own TOU.

If this Tribe is in violation of the TOU, then it should be removed. If it is not in violation, the I wish to be restored as moderator of the tribe I created and nurtured (with a lot of time and energy).

Would a representative from Tribe please respond to this?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 59 replies

Patti, TOU/2257 confusion.

2006-04-28T04:33:28Z

Patti wrote "Why not make the tribe private?" in a previous thread on this forum in regard to content that had been flagged and deleted. The content was deleted due to the fact that it was in violation of the TOU and 2257.

So, I'm confused. If the new TOU is in response to 2257, then ostensibly tribe wants to remove ALL offending content. Hiding content behind the weakest of barriers, a..."private"...tribe, will not protect tribe.net from penalties under 2257. Yet, here Patti seems to be encouraging exactly that behavior, in violation of the TOU and Tribe's stated goal of removing offending content and protecting Tribe from legal retribution from the government.

There are two scenarios that I can see here. 1) Tribe genuinely wants to remove all content, and just has a poor, easily abused system that, in reality, will not protect them from liability. Also, Patti, against the wishes of her employer, is encouraging abuse of the weaknesses built into the system. 2) Tribe wants to move explicit content behind closed doors, without actually removing offending content, and just suppressing it by moving it underground.

Can somebody help me out here?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 41 replies

Tracking Tribe Visitors

2006-04-23T22:29:18Z

I apologize if this has already been asked, but is it possible to track persons that have viewed your tribe?

Laura

posted in Tribe Moderators - 27 replies

April 2006 release is up and running.

2006-04-17T00:50:24Z

We're live with the new release. What's changed? Here's the overview:

HOMEPAGE PREVIEW
Based on feedback that has come to be known as "serendipity & sidewalk," we've reorganized the way that the member homepage works, and you'll be able to compare two versions of the page and see how they stack up against the current one. We're trying to strike a balance for people who like to see posts, and people who like to track tribes, so please let us know which layout you prefer, and why.

SEARCH
Thanks to major work by half the engineering team, we're happy to release "one-box search," which will make it much easier to find interesting items on Tribe. Version 2.0 of our search is fast, global, and features a tabbed interface that lets you pick between seeing all the results at once, or filtering to a single item type. You can even save your searches to your favorite RSS reader.

VIDEO
Video is coming to Tribe. We're taking baby steps with this one, and trying it out on member profiles first. We've added a Revver module, so you can add your favorite videos to your profile. And you'll be in control -- video files won't start unless you press the Play button. We'll be watching to see how people use this, so let us know how you like it, and if you want more multimedia modules.

READABILITY
We're continuing to apply your feedback to the look and feel of the site, with adjustments to the grey page background, and the font combinations that are displayed.

We've set up a new April 2006 Release tribe to discuss this release and collect feedback:

http://tribes.tribe.net/april2006/

Head on over to find out more about the release, and check out the survey we're running too.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 20 replies

Wade's Gone............

2006-04-11T21:36:22Z

.............truly, a loss...................

I hope that the new Tribe employee that takes Wade's place ignores us as thoroughly as Wade did.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 27 replies

Inappropriate Postings

2006-04-07T04:18:06Z

My fiance has had one guy post some inappropriate comments on some of her pictures in her profile. What can be done to stop this besides sending him a note (which is being done)?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 1 reply

Thanks Slim

2006-04-06T13:20:17Z

Picture == 1k words

--S

posted in Tribe Moderators - 32 replies

Member Ignored can join tribe without getting notification?

2006-04-06T03:45:35Z

I just noticed that a tribe member I am ignoring joined one of my tribes. I have elected to be notified when people join this tribe, but was not notified that this person joined. If I ignore someone because of past activity, I won't be notified of them joining my tribe? Is this the way it works?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 9 replies

Open Letter To The Tribe.net Administration

2006-04-03T18:57:51Z

On March 15-16, 2006, two Tribe employees took action to recover data that I, as the founder/moderator of SF The Citadel tribe, had deleted.

The two were: Patti Beadles, responsible for "Quality Assurance" at Tribe.net, and Jennifer Snyder, Database Administrator at Tribe.net.

"Patti B" acted on a request from , one of the owners of The Citadel club. "Patti B" was according to her own posts assisted by "Jenni S", in her data recovery operation.

When the work was done, "Patti B" gave my tribe to the person who requested the action in the first place, the club owner August/"Dungeon Vixen SF Citadel" - with tribe administration support.

I asked "Patti B": Do you deny that I had deleted the data?"

She replied: "I live a fact-based life; I can't deny it."

So, please notice here - that "Patti B" doesn't argue with the fact that I had deleted most of the data.

This is what Tribes Terms Of Use (TOU) says:

"5. Content
We do not claim ownership of the content you post or otherwise provide to the Service. However, you hereby grant, and agree to grant as an effect of posting or otherwise providing content, the following license: to the public, a license for personal non-commercial use; and to Tribe, a perpetual license to use, copy, distribute, display, perform, and modify any and all content that you post on the Service. This license cannot be withdrawn except that any content deleted from the Tribe site will terminate the Tribe license. Your use of the service is in consideration for this license, we will not otherwise pay you for your content. You represent and warrant that you have not granted and will not grant any rights inconsistent with this license."

So, "any content deleted from the Tribe site will terminate the Tribe license" - Tribe.net's right to use the material in any form.

Some have suggested that maybe the TOU text only covers material deleted by Tribe.net - but nothing in the TOU (or FAQ) supports that.

It has also been suggested that maybe the TOU text means that Tribe.net's server "trash can" must have been emptied. But, again - nothing in the TOU (or FAQ) supports that - it's about data that has been deleted from the Tribe site.

The moderator has a right to delete data, and once it is deleted the Tribe license (to use this material) is terminated.

This was exactly the situation here.

"Patti B", "Jenni S", the TOU Guy and the part of the Tribe administration who gave the retroactive green light - did clearly breach Tribe's own Terms Of Use (TOU).

The data that was recovered and handled by Tribe staff was no longer data covered by Tribe's license.

The Tribe license had been terminated!

posted in Tribe Moderators - 117 replies

A Questionnaire for all Moderators

2006-04-03T17:45:17Z

As moderators you all are valued members of our community on Tribe. You have created a mini-community within the larger Tribe community where members from all over the world (in some cases) come to be connected with like-minded people. By rousing interesting discussions and creating a space where people can openly communicate, give advice, and make suggestions or recommendations. We commend and thank you for that!

At this point we really want to understand you all better so I would appreciate if you could answer some, or all, of these questions. Please provide feedback without flaming posts. We want your honest, sincere, and most importantly, constructive comments. I'm hoping that your feedback and our dialogue will help us assist and support you all more.

1. Do you feel supported, as a moderator, by Tribe (the company)?
2. Additionally, what kinds of support as a moderator do you need to:
Start your tribe in the beginning?
Maintain your tribe?
Improve your tribe?
3. Would you benefit from having a moderator liaison between you and Tribe (the company)?
4. Why did you create a tribe/why do you moderate a tribe?
5. How many tribes do you moderate?
6. How many members are in your tribes?
7. How were you able to make your tribe successful (success can be defined as number of members or activity)?
8. Do/did you invite a lot of people outside of Tribe into your tribe?
If so, approximately how many?
9. Do/did you invite a lot of people already on Tribe into your tribe?
If so, approximately how many?
10. How long have you been a moderator?
11. How do you keep your tribes active when the discussion dies down?
12. Approximately how many hours a week do you spend in the tribes you manage?
13. Approximately how many hours a week do you spend on Tribe (the site)?
14. Is it important to you that tribes have the ability to be private?

Thanks for taking the time to provide us with feedback!

posted in Tribe Moderators - 22 replies

flagging photos

2006-04-03T15:48:40Z

Just an FYI to group owners, the person going by the handle "Micah" is flagging photos he does not like. Just be aware of that if you have a private group before you allow him in.

You may lose some of your content.

"Don't try to regulate what free people can view in a free society."

posted in Tribe Moderators - 8 replies

What We Have Learned About Tribe

2006-03-31T19:16:19Z

What we've learned the last couple of days is that some really basic and important guidelines & rules are not disclosed in the Terms Of Use (TOU) and Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) of tribe.net. And not just that - we've also learned that a company policy NOT outlined in writing can nullify a rule that is actually put in writing.

Here's another lesson from the tribe I founded and moderated (SF The Citadel tribe): The more successful you are with your tribe, the larger and more active you're making it - the less influence and power you have as the founder and moderator. This has been demonstrated by the hijacking of my tribe.

Tribe.net has sanctioned a policy that gives a green light to its staff to step in and recover deleted material, in this case a whole tribe, directly against its own written TOU. It has given permission to an employee to give the tribe to a friend, a business woman with a financial stake in the re-opening of the tribe. This to me suggests a conflict of interest.

In the name of community interest, an independent non-commercial, non-profit tribe has now been turned into a tribe serving a private, commercial, for-profit business. The transformation was handled and sanctioned by tribe.net staff who also used the term community interest, when in fact tribe.net in itself is a for-profit business, and 1700+ members is advertisement money, folks.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 156 replies

Time to Stumble on...

2006-03-27T19:14:38Z

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/98e/541/98e541ae-1985-47fe-b2ba-ed1e3ad4c760

the great wandering is upon us.
those interested in free interaction will join the exodus; movement of trite ppl.

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/11c/616/11c6162a-79d8-4c6e-804e-47e2a75f4b89

let us let go...

posted in Tribe Moderators - 25 replies

Announcing the Members Icon Design Contest!

2006-03-27T19:09:16Z

That's right -- nobody really liked that members icon you see up there, and plenty of people downright hated it, so we're opening the door for anyone interested in making their mark on Tribe in a very real way. Show us your best designs, and you could win a spot for your icon in the masthead. More importantly, you could win yourself a $100 Amazon.com gift certificate. Tribe fame and Amazon fortune. What more could you ask for?

The full details are at the Members Icon Design Contest tribe, but here are the basics:

- Enter your design by Friday, April 7th, 2006
- Enter by uploading one image per design to the Members Icon Design tribe
- Enter as many times as you like
- You must be a member of Tribe to enter

Go here to find out more:

http://tribes.tribe.net/membersicon/

We'll also be sending out a personal message about this, but if you've got your Message Center set up with the iron fist of Ignore, then you can see the full text here:

http://tribes.tribe.net/membersicon/thread/7a89e3c1-2561-4c91-a04a-97d59d0c31e3

*Note: Amazon.com is not affiliated with this contest in any way. We just like their gift certificates.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 12 replies

inviting members to private tribes

2006-03-26T11:31:49Z

hey all!
i moderate a private tribe and have received some mails from people wanting to join, but i don't remember how to invite them. do i have to make them part of my personal network before i invite them or is there some other way?
thanks in advance!
trance

posted in Tribe Moderators - 2 replies

What we have learned about rapture . . .

2006-03-24T06:08:19Z

Basics
Name Rapture
Here For Because I can be...
Gender Female to Male
Age 36 ( looks 56 )
Location SF Bay Area
Interests - Females, being 6'3" and not short, but also 230lbs, Sex, Hard Work, More...Sex, Sunsets, Sun Rises, Actual submission/surrender, Movies, Music, Nature, Camping, the primal and that of the carnal...., Backpacking, Hiking, Writing (poems), Bicycling, Wine, Reading, Even more....Sex, Running (10 miles x5's week), Weight Lifting, Computers, Roller Skating, Debate, __Sex, Photography, Leadership, Finance, Sex__, Collecting Bicentennial Quarters, Gor (yes set in a fictional setting, yet check sometime for the actual parts that reflect actual emotion and circumstances).......Sex....

( his girlfriend Palm-ela and her five friends get a regular workout . . . )

Online
Yahoo: Rapture203
More About Me

about me

QUOTE OF THE MOMENT:

"DO NOT ALLOW EGO TO SUPERCEDE INTELLIGENCE AND/OR THAT OF WISDOM....."

(Guilty)

Another one:
"For it is not so much a battle of the flesh but the battle of the Wills, the Spirit, the Soul, and of the Heart's blood."

(On a serious mission ! oooooooh )

-Actually trained in restraint, and pain compliance....

( Also trained to go on the paper and to dance)

-Sometimes the nightmare, sometimes that person who will stand by you when noone else will, sometimes the asshole, sometimes the best friend or best ally you will ever need.

( - Always a nightmare, sometimes that person who will run from you when noone else will, always the asshole, sometimes the best friend or best ally you will ever need to stab you in the back. )

-Brutally honest. I'll tell you just how it is.

( - In my warped vision of things)

-Of course all of this does not mean I cannot be nice either...it is just my choice to be. . . .

( - . . . an asshole )

Anymore? Ask...

( . . . and I won't tell. )

What I Want All sorts of things...

( A brain for starters . . . )

Dating/Personal
Status Single

(Single? But you have such a charming personality ! )

Interested In
Gender Preference Female

( Transexuals are new discovery of mine. I've RSVP'd for a Womens/Trans person only play party. I plan on looking soooo glamorous ! )

Drinking Social drinker

( Should probably go straight to crack smoking )

Smoking I don't smoke

( Ssssshhhya, right ! )

Work/Professional
Occupation Employed Specialty

( Translation - I'm a stylist consultant. Please see business card in photo gallery on the Citadel Tribe )

Starting a mortgage company... Overview#@$@$@%!@#%!@ Ugh #@%&((@#$#

( Translation - Just one of the many scams I couldn't get off the ground. )

SkillsMany..

( In addition to being a personal stylist consultant I am experienced in the art of being a professional het male target. A job I totally volunteer for ! )

posted in Tribe Moderators - 11 replies

Inviting new members

2006-03-22T17:38:09Z

Hi all. I just joined the tribe today, and I wanted to ask opinions from other tribe moderators on something:

Some of the content on the tribe I moderate (needle play in bdsm) would be considered more mature than many other tribes, so the tribe is set as a private one. The members are allowed to invite new members, but each one is reviewed to make sure that they have a complete profile.

I am curious, with the new stance tribe has on content, how others are handling this issue of private vs public and controlling who may enter to lessen the risk of issues with someone who is not friendly to the topic of your tribe trying to cause it grief.
des

posted in Tribe Moderators - 5 replies

tribe hates me:(

2006-03-22T01:39:26Z

on my tribe petroleum substitutes there are 2 advertisements, one for a sonoco gas card and one anti-liberal:(

posted in Tribe Moderators - 6 replies

The Rights of a Moderator

2006-03-21T19:45:40Z

Dear Tribe Moderators,

I'm the moderator of one of the largest kinky tribes here on tribe.net. I've just experienced something really odd and painful that I would like to share with you. Because, if it can happen to me, and the people guilty of breaking the tribe rules go free - it could happen to you too.

Don't let that happen. This is about our rights as moderators, and I'm asking for your understanding and support.

Best regards, Hans

----------------

First, let's me present the tribe members mentioned in this letter:

* "sfsissysub" = that's me, the founder and moderator of "SF The Citadel" tribe

* "Phil_of_the Citadel" = Phil. member of the tribe, and co-club owner of The Citadel

* "Dungeon Vixen SF Citadel" = August, member of the tribe, and co-club owner of The Citadel

* "Shatter" = member involved in flame war, expelled from my tribe for breaking my tribe rules and continuing the fight

* "Patti B" = Patti Beadles, responsible for "Quality Assurance" at tribe.net and member of "SF The Citadel" tribe

* "Jenni S" = Jennifer Snyder, Database Administrator at tribe.net

-----------------------------

The Rights of a Moderator

In August 2004 I started "SF The Citadel" tribe.

In the description of the tribe I made it very clear that this was a grassroots initiative by an individual, me, and that this tribe was for people who played (safe, sane & consensual bdsm) at club "The Citadel" - but that the tribe was not
controlled by or directly affiliated with the club owners - just like tribes for rock bands here at tribe are not controlled by the rock band, its manager or record company.

During the first couple of days of its existence, I had a verbal discussion with Phil, one of the owners of club "The Citadel". He expressed some concerns that the tribe could possibly mean some negative publicity for the club. I told him that my intentions were all good and that I believe the tribe could have a positive effect, bringing more people to the club. I also told Phil that I was not willing to submit the tribe to some kind of control by the club owners, that I valued the tribes independence very high - but that I would be prepared to shut down the tribe if they didn't want it, at that time.
He declined my offer to close the tribe.

Next time we talked about the tribe it had a couple of hundred members and very positive activity. Phil at that time, and many times after that, expressed how grateful he and the other club owners were for the tribe I had created, and the great work I did to manage it.

The tribe reached a membership of 1700+ members by early 2006, largely because of my work with direct invitations to individuals.

After several months of internal fighting between a group of member who have close ties with the club owners and another individual, the tribe reached a crisis a couple of days ago, when this small group of members argued the same arguments over and over, and in many cases used a flaming language, with insults and angry outbursts.

After a large number of attempts from my side, as the founder/moderator, to stop the fighting and get back to normal, I finally declared in a statement to all members that the fighting has to stop, and STOP NOW!

I made clear that any member who continues to argue the conflict in the tribe, will be expelled. I stood by my words, and by Wednesday afternoon, March 15 2006, five of the members involved in the fighting had been expelled from the tribe - all of them for continuing to argue the conflict after I drew a line in the sand.

The five expelled members were close friends of the club owners, Phil & August. During Wednesday I received several tribe messages from one of the owners, August. She told me that she supported these members right to continue to argue the conflict, and she asked me to reconsider, and bring them back as members.

I told her that if these members are not prepared to follow the tribe rules and stay away from fighting, they should not be members of this tribe.

By late afternoon, 3/15, I got a new tribe message from August, where she told me that Shatter, the member who was first expelled (involved in flaming several times during the conflict), had started a new "Official Citadel" tribe. She had got an offer to moderate the new tribe, and she wrote to me that she had accepted.

This is from the mission statement for the new "Official Citadel" tribe:

"This will stand as the official Citadel tribe for all things related to The Citadel in San Francisco. Due to recent event it's been deemed need that an official tribe be started as the current SF Citadel Tribe is not representative of The Citadel in the least, with the Owners of the Citadel not allowed to voice any opinion contrary to the Nazi in control."

The "Nazi in control" is supposedly me - a person who is as far from being a "Nazi" as anybody can be. I've just done my best to handle my tribe to the best of my ability as a neutral moderator.

Regarding the statement that the "the Owners of the Citadel (were) not allowed to voice any opinion" - is a fabrication of false information, and there's not a single post, tribe message or email supporting it.

On the contrary, I've always welcomed the views of the club owners, as well as the views of any tribe member. I've treated the club owners with respect, and in a friendly manner. (see more than 18 months of my posts in "SF The Citadel" tribe)

When I found out about the new "Official Citadel" tribe, I informed my tribe members about the new tribe, and I wrote that I would decide the future of my tribe shortly, and let them know.

During this whole period of fighting I had been looking for guidelines in tribe.net's FAQs. In the FAQ it was clearly written that I, as the moderator of a tribe, have the right to expel members, and also to close and delete the
tribe that I have created and moderated.

Tired of all the internal fighting, and personal attacks & insults on me as the moderator, I decided to close the tribe.

I posted an announcement in the tribe and in a few related tribes, announcing my plans to shut down "SF The Citadel" tribe I created, stating my reasons and informing the members that the new "Official Citadel" tribe would take its place..

First, I did as advised in tribe's FAQ section "How do I delete a tribe I've created?". I sent an email to <help@tribe.net> with with the words "remove SF The Citadel tribe" in the subject line, asking for assistance in deleting this moderated tribe. I never heard back from the help line.

Second, I started to delete photos, subject threads and members, as my way to shut down and delete the tribe. It was all deleted and gone around midnight 3/15-16.

About 24 hours later all the data was recovered by Patti Beadles, responsible for "Quality Assurance" at tribe.net and member of "SF The Citadel" tribe.

Patti B" acted on a request from August, "Dungeon Vixen SF Citadel" at tribe, co-owner of The Citadel club. "Patti B" was according to her own posts assisted by "Jenni S", Database Administrator at tribe.net.

After Patti had recovered all deleted data, she offered the hijacked tribe as a gift to August. A new mission statement was written and the people who had been involved in the fighting, on the same side as those who were expelled, rejoiced and celebrated as expressed in their posts. The main opponent, Rapture, was expelled from the tribe, and so was I - the creator and moderator of the tribe.

As far as I understand, what Patti and Jenni at tribe.net did - on the request from another tribe member re-opening the tribe and recovering all its data - has no support in tribe's Terms Of Use and Frequently Asked Questions.

Instead, what is actually stated is that the Moderator has the right to delete the tribe he has created. See "How do I delete a tribe I've created?" in tribe's FAQ.

Also, this is what tribes Terms Of Use (TOU) says:

"5. Content
We do not claim ownership of the content you post or otherwise provide to the Service. However, you hereby grant, and agree to grant as an effect of posting or otherwise providing content, the following license: to the public, a license for personal non-commercial use; and to Tribe, a perpetual license to use, copy, distribute, display, perform, and modify any and all content that you post on the Service. This license cannot be withdrawn except that any content deleted from the Tribe site will terminate the Tribe license. Your use of the service is in consideration for this license, we will not otherwise pay you for your content. You represent and warrant that you have not granted and will not grant any rights inconsistent with this license."

So, "any content deleted from the Tribe site will terminate the Tribe license" (tribe.net's right) to use the material in any form.

Tribe staff, Patti & Jenni gave themselves the right to recover material I had deleted, in clear breach with the TOU.

How is this hijacking possible? How can tribe staff break their own rules and assist a group of members in a coup to take over a tribe I have created, and decided to delete? My tribe is still up there, but with me on the outside, a new mission statement, a new moderator (one of the club owners).

I feel violated both as a tribe moderator and as a individual member of tribe.net. My character has been smeared and I've been robbed of my creation.

What will tribe.net do to correct the wrong doings against me and my tribe?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 224 replies

The Rights (and responsibilities) of Trite.net

2006-03-21T18:26:59Z

i just had to start this one. sorry.

this is not going to be another boring tread about the blah blah blah of tou etc.

i just want to thx trite.net for doing such amazingly good pr for free-ass.
http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/86f/e76/86fe76f8-ea14-4b30-ad88-b2ef2afde529

Free-Ass at last!
Free-Ass at last!
Free-Ass at last!
Thank Trite for Free-Ass at last!

http://free-association.net

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posted in Tribe Moderators - 2 replies

Little Debbie deleted by TOU from Dingleberry Lane.

2006-03-21T18:20:44Z

images.tribe.net/tribe/upl...037f13d3cb

This image of the little Debbie logo was deleted by TOU out of the Dingleberry Lane tribe.

posted in Tribe Moderators - 30 replies

The responsibilities of a Moderator?

2006-03-20T20:52:47Z

The "Rights of a Moderator" thread brings up an intersting question in my mind.

What is the responsibility of a moderator to the community that they have created?

Are they obligated to police it? Are they obligated to respect the wishes of the majority? What should happen when the moderator's self-interest conflicts with that of the tribe as a whole?

posted in Tribe Moderators - 14 replies

The Rights (and responsibilities) of Free-Ass

2006-03-20T20:43:18Z

No kiddie porn. anyting else goes. that sums up what is not allowed.
{bring us your censored pics, poems, writing...etc.}

association owners have complete control of the assoc. they own (ie: moderate).

{thus the current inter-citdel flame war would not be an issue on free-ass.}

the only responsibility that i can see is to have a good time which lies w/individual associates.

whole trites are starting to migrate.

trite flight is in full effect.

u want to hang around and have trite auguments about tou/coc while the midwestern rednecks fill up the users list and any ting sensual gets flagged?

enjoy.

http://free-association.net

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posted in Tribe Moderators - 0 replies

Feedback update: we're live with the new changes.

2006-03-20T09:59:27Z

Thanks for your patience -- we were working on a few last minute tweaks, and as of 1:30 PM we're live with the layout changes. Questions and comments are welcome here.

(For a list of what's changed, check this topic: http://tribes.tribe.net/newlook/thread/c8f3f8db-c032-4a1c-a2ec-8725bdf0e475 )

posted in Tribe Moderators - 15 replies

Can we forget ๓ậтæö and get back to ME . . .

2006-03-18T06:39:40Z

or some of the many real legit problems with censorship in this new improved - impoverished - Tribe?

The dumbest thing i think is that tribes regarded as 'mature' can't be found in searches. Can only be joined, or known about, if invited specifically by a member. DUMB!

posted in Tribe Moderators - 19 replies