I thought having more than one account was a violation of the Terms of Use. I guess I have to go back and re-read. Unless they changed that recently.

There are certain criteria that apply to this kind of people as well. That is why you do not delete people mindlessly, but first investigate, watch their activity in your (if any) and other tribes, and then make your decision.

Christie wrote:

"For me, the problem people in my tribes are the members who are no longer active. Or never were active in the first place. I've been researching the membership in one of the tribes I've been moderating for a year and a half and the people in the tribe who seem to have no activity anywhere on tribe at all in the last 2 years are on a list I've created of "inactive tribe profiles in this tribe". What I mean by inactive is I can see nothing on their profile page that's indicated to me that they have visited tribe.net at all in over 2 years. No new photos, no added friends, no recent activity nor blog posts, etc. I check these profiles periodically and if I see their light is on, or they've added a friend or added anything at all to their profile page, then they are removed from my list. I consider these problem people, and am likely to remove them from that tribe. I've already removed some of them and I don't think they ever will notice because they are plain absent from tribe."

I immediately replied with a case, in my experience, exactly like that. And, all of a sudden, a reply follows with this:

"In my elimination process I'm selecting only those who've not only not been active in the tribe I moderate but elsewhere on tribe, too, as far as I can tell. ... might want to keep some tribes to only active members in that tribe. ... I belong to some tribes in which I rarely, if ever, post. I like reading what's posted there or being associated with those tribes enough to not leave them, ... etc. "

So my question is: “Do we remember what we had posted just two replies before?

We have established that there is a problem with the general mess on Tribe. There is no, or long have been lost, a general structure and somewhat ordinance to the whole place. Some examples of which are: Trolls, sock-puppets, alts (in some of their variations), inactive members, inactive tribes, and so on, and so forth.

Numerous calls for restructuring and "clean-up" have been made, including deletion of inactive tribes as well as removal of inactive members that do not add, and never have to begin with, anything to this or that entity. Numerous suggestions have been made as to how to do that. And as soon as somebody begins moving towards the implementation of the solution, immediately everybody begins crying about this or that.

Of course there are those who are there to exchange, as much as there are those who are there (or came in to begin with) just because they were bored to death and they heard about "this place, called Tribe". Now they are bored with this too and simply left, long since forgotten about this place even existing. Those who come in, added 40-50 tribes, lazily posted in one or two (out of 50, or more!) and never posted and came back again. Their lives might have picked up and they do not need any "time-killing for the time being" anymore. That is why you go to your attic and clear old clutter. What are the criteria for choosing one over the other? - Yes, you investigate, compare, think what is beneficial for the so-called greater good, and go with that which leaves the place (your house) cleaner and healthier at the end. This is what is called - Moderating, being the man of the house. This is what is called making the leader decisions. Yes, they are tough, but they are necessary in order to keep the machine lubricated and working without glitches.

Now imagine the kind of decisions leaders have to make, who are out there, in real life, constantly surrounded with all the whining and screaming from whoever chooses to do so, just because they simply feel like whining and such right now. Put yourselves in the place of those leaders. They have to make the right decision not to let their country slip into the abyss of chaos and lawlessness, to keep the society running, economy going, children growing, parents working, schools open, and banks trading, and all that under almost permanent hysterical howling. This is what a truly "hell of a job" it is. Obama should be carried around by greatful masses for his courage and balls of steel, having agreed to take over the mess that murderous scum left behind. Of course, one should not "walk on corpses" in order to govern right, but the decisions one makes are not those of which flavor lolly-pop I am going to buy today, or "ah, I don't know, I feel a little gassy today, I think I'll go with Long John Silvers, instead of Chili's."
That is why you first investigate, watch, think, compare, and only then, after a good while, make your decision.
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This is a part of growing up and this is what being a grown-up means - making the tough decisions of life.

ah that old chestnut....

first the poland tribe, then the france tribe ( through the neighbours garden, over the fence and in the back door)....sound familiar??

I believe the correct term is dictator and not moderator...

surely it is not the job of the moderator to act as censor but the role of the tribe...

where one experiences a problem... i.e a post being excessively offensive or totally off topic then the mod should warn the poster in the thread and may request a retraction ... simply disagreeing with a persons point of view is not a cause for censorship... if the warning fails then the mod should delete further violations but should also post an explaination for the deletion in the thread... ut should be remembered that the moderator is NOT the tribe but a member who has a specific function towards maintaining decorum.

you get some interesting battles sometimes and inevitable you will find that the most voracious in thos battles will generally end up disagreeing... they are, as we all all, nothing more than advocates for our own prejudices....

similarly a lot of people actually read the threads but don't post and arguments can appear one sided as one individual avers against half a dozen others in a thread... the simple conclusion is that the 'lone dissentor' is alone but this is often not the case particularly if the thread is entertaining and the post well constructed....

thus providing it is not excessivly offensive or tottally off topic and regardless of whether a veiw point is correct or not, it is valid ... this is the essence of free speech and whilst there are thos who aver that tribes are not subject to upholding the principle free speech if one takes a logical view then one realises that such an argument if valid for one site... is potentially valid for them all and a person who defends censorship in a tribe effective provides support for censorship of the entire net... and just as this thread defends censorship with the euthemism 'Problem people' so does a totalitarian state........

the Achilles heal of a freedom , and I would aver the same applies to Gnosis and its pursuit, is you have to put up with the rights of a lot of ignorant stupid people.. tiring though it is the alternative is to become a control freak,

regards

gm23

LOL, I have but in both of those cases the moderators are no longer active. This is the first time I have ever assisted in replacing an active moderator.